Sean Zevran Questions Hugh Hunter Over GayVN Nominations Withdrawal: “I’m Suspicious Of His Motivations”

Posted December 13, 2017 by with 105 comments

shhgLast month, white gay porn star Hugh Hunter made news when he posted a tweet announcing that he wanted his nominations at the upcoming GayVN Awards withdrawn due to the show’s category honoring “Best Ethnic Scene” (a category that has since been removed). This week, biracial gay porn star Sean Zevran has written a thought provoking and important article for Efniks that questions Hunter’s motivations in asking to be removed from the awards show, while reminding that the issue of racism in porn is about much more than one awards show or one white gay porn star’s tweet. Zevran’s must-read article in full is here, and here are excerpts:

Though I share concerns about having a de facto “separate but equal” category and about the fetishizing of racial minorities, with the elimination of categories such as “Best Ethnic Scene,” my larger concern is that talent of color in the gay porn industry will find it more challenging to be recognized.

Now, I was only shortly behind Hugh Hunter in withdrawing my own nominations, but I suspect his and my reasons for doing so are slightly different, and I want to be forthcoming and clear on exactly why I withdrew my nominations. My fans, and those with whom I was nominated for this particular award, deserve an explanation.

Foremost, I withdrew my nominations because I wanted to show my fans, especially those of color, and the rest of the industry, that I am serious about wanting to see real change; that I want to not just talk about it, but be about it. Never in my entire porn career have I received so many texts, emails, and social media messages from fans, blogs, and publications alike asking what my response would be to the latest gay porn controversy. So, I thought maybe this would be an opportunity to add momentum to the conversation. Maybe this would be an opportunity to create a narrative that is driven mainly by the experiences and stories of people of color in the gay porn industry.

Secondly, I withdrew my nominations because I was angry, not at GayVN, but at the way the situation seemed to be unfolding. After receiving news of Hugh Hunter’s bombshell and reading the letter he sent to GayVN, I was angry that some random white guy had seemingly decided to take it upon himself to use the struggle of gay porn actors of color to get attention. Hugh Hunter is being praised right now by gay media and porn blogs as some kind of gay porn social justice icon while actors of color who have been talking about this for years continue to be ignored and forgotten, actors that came before my time, even.

I agree with Sean Zevran with regard to how models of color have indeed been calling out racism in the porn industry for years. And with regard to Hugh Hunter seeking attention, well, that would be nothing new. Full disclosure: Hugh Hunter sought attention on Twitter earlier this year when he unsuccessfully called for a “boycott” of a different awards show—the Str8UpGayPorn Awards (where he was not nominated for anything). Unlike the understandable issue he had with the GayVNs, Hunter tweeted dozens of blatant and bizarre lies about Str8UpGayPorn (so many that I had his Twitter permanently suspended for harassment—although he quickly opened a new account), including the lies that I published his name and address, and that I threatened to contact his landlord and his family. What these nonexistent threats were, where they were supposedly published, and why/how I would do any of this (I have no idea who Hugh Hunter or his landlord or his family are) was of course never explained by Hugh Hunter, because none of these things ever happened here, as everyone already knows.

So, while Hugh Hunter was correct to call out the “Best Ethnic Scene” category at the GayVNs, his history of provoking social media drama (just last month, he and his husband were having a public Twitter war with a porn star half their age) and desperately seeking attention—at the expense of others—makes me question his sincerity on this or any issue, and Sean Zevran was correct to question his motives. He continues:

For me, it’s more than a little unnerving that Hugh Hunter, again, a white guy, seems to be getting most of the attention for something that should be about us and how we feel. That in itself is telling. It also makes me suspicious of his motivations. I mean no disrespect to Hunter with what I’m about to say, but the things for which he was nominated put him up against some stiff competition, and had I been placing bets before he withdrew, I wouldn’t have placed bets on him to win anything at all. Mind you, this is less of a criticism of his talent in the industry and more of a compliment to those he was up against. He was up against some serious industry veterans, and Hunter wasn’t even nominated for “Best Ethnic Scene.” After all, he couldn’t have been. He’s white.

Forgive me for being skeptical of his motives. For a white guy who had next to no chance of winning, it seems something other than fortuitous that he would decline all of his nominations and try to blow the whole thing up on his way out by crying “Racism!” As a friend of mine often says, “Stay in your lane, boo. This ain’t about you.”

I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong. If so, then I apologize to Hugh Hunter and the entire industry. However, I think if Hunter had been serious about addressing the problem of racism in gay porn, he would have first reached out to the talent that was nominated for “Best Ethnic Scene” and asked us what we thought about it. Furthermore, he would’ve sought out someone at GayVN, as I did, and asked about the reasons behind having an award for “Best Ethnic Scene.” Instead, he reached out to neither those nominated for the award nor anyone at GayVN before creating a spectacle by withdrawing his nominations and posting an explosive letter to Twitter. I think it was selfish. The best course of action would have been for all of us to sit down together and ask “How can we make this better?”

Doing such would’ve been quite simple, as I’ve demonstrated. For example, after exchanging a few text messages and making a couple of phone calls, I found out exactly who to contact at GayVN so that I could get GayVN’s perspective on the whole thing. I heard their side of the story while also voicing the concerns that many gay actors and fans of color have about having a “Best Ethnic Scene” award. The conversation was professional, understanding, and compassionate. GayVN has acknowledged its missteps and expressed interest in reaching out to more actors, studios, and fans of color in order to better understand how to tackle this issue. That is how progress is made: by talking to people, getting their perspective, listening, learning, and turning knowledge into action.

That, honestly, is more or less what I’d been planning to do before this whole thing blew up and every blog and gay publication began raving about it. I could already see the direction this was headed: a few blogs and publications would pick up the story and run with it for clickbait for a while, as they always do; Hugh Hunter would get a pat on the back for virtue signaling; the story would eventually blow over and people of color would once again be left in the dust with nothing actually being done to make things better.

It probably comes as no surprise that, once again, Hugh Hunter has taken to Twitter for more drama, and he’s responding to Sean Zevran’s article. Hunter labels Zevran’s article “unfortunate,” and he goes on to make a veiled threat against Zevran, writing, “I could make assumptions as to why you did this, but I won’t.”

hugh1 hugh2 hugh3Sean Zevran was correct to question Hugh Hunter’s motives, but at the same time, Hunter’s history of self-interest and penchant for drama might’ve actually done some good for once, given that at least the real issue of racism in gay porn is finally being openly addressed more than it ever has before. Read Sean Zevran’s full article here.

  • Deviancy Behavir

    Sean should’ve left this alone, he’s making these odd “Lena Dunham” mindset assumptions about why Hugh withdrew his name. For people who don’t know Lena Dunham talked about how ODell Beckham treated her like shit, without even saying anything to her or acknowledging with more then a hello when they were seated at an event together. Sean really is doing the same thing, he’s reaching. The sad thing is Sean had no problem following the bandwagon and withdrew his name, but he’s acting like Hugh was trying to steal his shine or something. Sometimes not every thought in your head needs to be voiced, it’s okay to think something but not say it, he just showed himself to be kinda delusional in my view.

    • c_find

      I do get his point about how the media twisted but really can you blame that all on Hugh. The media has a tendency for any racial argument to push of the white person(if they are not the offending party) over the person of colour so you really cannot blame that on Hugh. There are white people out there that strongly believe in equality for ALL and do help in Racial issues. Yes their are fame whores out there but Hugh has not demonstrated in this case that his intentions are not genuine so this just makes Sean look petty.

      • Deviancy Behavir

        I get what you’re saying, but the point is that if he had that concern, he could’ve privately messaged Hugh Hunter and gotten his take on why he removed his name. But that’s not what he did, he let his mind wonder on why Hugh did it instead and that’s not the right thing to do. Nobody likes to be accused or have an insinuation out their that they’re doing something when their not. If Sean had some receipts that’s a different story, but he’s just pulling this stuff out of his ass.

        • c_find

          Hey man I totally agree with you

    • FrenchBug

      Sorry but I disagree.

      Even setting aside speculation about why HH did it (and full disclosure: I too at the time expressed skepticism about his motives), it is perfectly legitimate – and I have seen many PoC say this to me about other situations such as this – to point out that racial injustice seems to be taken a lot more seriously when a white person makes that point than what a PoC does.
      So, yeah, there is an interesting conversation to have about where the line is between being an ally and further enabling some societal racist impulses (as in: PoC voices being worth less than white ones) by taking over the mantle of the fight (without asking).

      It seems to me that, at the very least, if Hugh Hunter’s goal was genuinely about expressing his concern about that category, rather than seek publicity for himself, he would have reached out, if not fully coordinated, his stunt with some of his fellow porn performers, especially porn performers of color.

      • Xzamilloh

        I mean, so which is it? Do we as minorities want those in privileged positions to bring attention, or should they just step aside as we continue being ignored? You can’t have it both ways and tell so-called privileged people to use their positions and then question their motives when they do. It’s damned if you do and damned if you don’t, and guess what? Now attention is on the motives of Hugh Hunter and not what Hugh Hunter was bringing attention to… Sean Zevran had all the time in the world to use his own so-called privilege as a light skinned man of color at predominantly white studios to sound the horn, so why is he up in arms when someone else does it before him?

        And where is the “line” you speak of, because in my own experiences, the line is arbitrary and at the discretion of whoever is deciding to take issue with someone’s message

        • Zealot

          In working with and for several so-called minority groups over the past 25 some-odd years, I’ve noticed some interesting similarities– some of which I believe can be applied to our community (which also spans many cultures, genders, and ethnic groups). That being, some of the efforts (or apathy) within our group is what keeps us “down”. We fail to trust and look askance at any efforts by those we consider as outside the group to lend a hand. We take our well-being and rights as something sacred to our own group as though no one else can possibly care as much about us as we do for ourselves….so that help is either ridiculed or discarded. Yet in the fight for LGBTQ rights (which is on-going despite what some in this community believe), it was the help of some people of faith, some people who identified as heterosexual and other friends to further our cause. We all too soon forget that all families have someone who is LGBTQ somewhere within them, as fathers, brothers, sisters. cousins, uncles, aunts, etc. Any struggle worth discussing whether about race, gender, sexuality, or any other quality we use to separate ourselves, is one worth inviting any friend in the struggle to join. Not being African-American, but coming from a Native American background (and working in a very political way within that community), I know that the fear and mistrust we held when working with the greater community of which we are a part, is much of why we failed to progress when we might have made much greater strides forward. I don’t know if this applies here or not, but I think until we– whether speaking about the LGBTQ community or any other group must recognize that we must at some point understand that inclusion and acceptance cannot be gained from outside ourselves until we learn to give it to one another.

          • Jer

            It was a group of straight people at my practice that sent out an email to everyone essentially stating “I don’t think we’re being very LGBTQ inclusive or supportive in our practice, we really should set up a task group to ensure we’re provided the best care for these patients that we possibly can.” Should I say “BITCHES BE QUIET ONLY WE GAYS CAN DETERMINE THIS!” or should I, I dunno…..let them find ways to promote inclusiveness to our gay patients?

            Sorry, I wasn’t meaning to disagree with you Zealot, I was being rhetorical with my last sentence, not directing it at you!

          • Zealot

            Hey, Jer. No offense taken whatsoever. I got what you were saying and what you meant at the end of your post. It was a great example of many we could all probably cite at how we must have friends of all stripes to support our causes if we seek to be accepted, rather than just tolerated. I really enjoyed the example you gave and am happy to know that you have such enlightened co-workers! Have a great holiday!

        • AsherStClaire

          No, we want them to actually regard us in their motivations. Instead of saying “LOOK AT ME AND THIS SELFLESS THING I’M DOING” he could’ve actually talked and had a conversation with the actors in the Ethnic Category and gotten their thoughts on the situation.

          Now because of his grandstanding the one category that models of color had is gone and all of the attention is now on him and his reasoning rather than the models. The story became all about him, regardless of his intentions, because he decided he knew how to handle other people’s oppression better than the ones who actually live it.

          That’s why it seems so self-serving at least to me.

          • Xzamilloh

            Well, hindsight is 20/20. I can’t speak for his mindset, but social media has become and is the new standard for bringing fast attention to something and making sure it doesn’t get swept under the rug. We see what’s going on with sexual assaults and the #MeToo campaign. And Hugh Hunter is not responsible for the “Ethnic” category being taken away, and if he is, then good on him, because the category was antiquated as it was.

            Stars like XL or Cooper Dang or even CutlerX should be right next to their white peers, not in some “other” like they’re different. And besides, the attention wasn’t on him, it was on what he brought attention… NOW it’s on him.

          • Exactly. The attention is now on Mr. Hunter because Mr. Zevran decided to arrange it that way.

          • AsherStClaire

            Except that not everything needs to happen “right now”, there are things that worth thinking out methodically and making sure you’re approaching a situation correctly. And the #metoo campaign has been so successful mainly because of organizations that were taking their time to make sure their work was relevant and purposeful. Just because the end result seems to be expedient and swift doesn’t meant that the work that went into creating that moment was.

            And the problem is, that yes, while XL and Cutler X should be by their white peers, the overwhelming White Imposed Standard of Beauty 9 times out of 10 pushes them to the side regardless of their talent as performers. So until those standards change, they should have the opportunity to be recognized in a category that isn’t subject to the overwhelming racism that the gay community endorses on a regular basis.

          • Xzamilloh

            You’re being purposely obtuse, and you know it. Courtney Love had spoken out against Harvey Weinstein years ago, the allegations against Bill Cosby had been known for years, but in one movement, it all came to a head and couldn’t be avoided, because victim after victim came out, with only Weinstein admitting any wrongdoing. The same with Kevin Spacey. So please don’t act like social media didn’t bring about the kind of attention that was unavoidable for these executives and stars and that these things would have to be addressed in a public manner.

            And I call bullshit on your last statement because the category alone was racist, grouping every model of color into one category as “ethnic” like THAT should be the differing factor. Either we’re equal or we’re not, and I wouldn’t settle for less than that. Ethnic “others” us and makes us different for no other reason than our skin color, and you would cosign on that?

          • AsherStClaire

            Don’t throw around phrases you don’t know how to use. The “Me Too” campaign was created by Tarana Burke over 10 years ago, and the hashtag kicked up recently as a direct result of the New York Times article that put Harvey Weinstein on blast. None of these things happened overnight. Time, effort, and research went into creating these moments. Just because the end result is all that you see doesn’t make that any less true.

            Do you know how much research and time went into an article of that magnitude? Do you think that a company like that would rush to release information like that without caution? No, of course not because they had to make sure that the information they were reporting on was accurate. Because of the fact that they took their time and did their research they were able to help foster a movement that had expedient results.

            I mean, you can call bullshit all you want, it doesn’t make my statement any less true. You know how we’re treated by the general gay population, you know how we’re treated by the general population in general.

            People of Color had to historically create our own outlets and categories so we could gain even a modicum of recognition and praise, this is the truth and if you don’t want to acknowledge that then that’s on you. Don’t get me wrong, I really hope some men of color are recognized and given the accolades that they deserve but that doesn’t change the fact that it’s not likely in the face of overwhelming racist bullshit.

          • Xzamilloh


        • FrenchBug

          I am not necessarily disagreeing with you. I am simply pointing out that SZ is raising an interesting point and a debate worth having, where reasonably people can land on different opinions, and not just settling personal scores.

          • Xzamilloh

            The point would have been interesting on its own without him adding the unnecessary shot of “Well, he wasn’t gonna win anyway so why is he REALLY doing what he’s doing?” I don’t blame Hugh Hunter for getting defensive about that or taking issue with having his motives questioned. And I’m not looking at Hunter’s past because that is irrelevant. That last part was just an out loud blurb, not really directed at you

        • Mike Julius

          “I mean, so which is it? Do we as minorities want those in privileged positions to bring attention, or should they just step aside as we continue being ignored?”

          Except, those aren’t the only two options. Flawed though the article was, one excellent point was the lack of coordination, which would have had a more powerful and lasting impact. He could have allied with those in the category and made a joint push.

          Look, it’s porn so it’s not even this deep, but just to illustrate my point, I would reference the Freedom Riders, a number of whom were white. That is the perfect example of the third option. True partners in a push for equality.

          • Xzamilloh

            I didn’t even see your reply, Mike. I’m sorry if you thought I was ignoring you. But, like I said to Asher, hindsight is 20/20 and if you can acknowledge that SZ’s article was flawed and still give him the benefit of the doubt, why not the same for HH? His approach wasn’t perfect, but he actually did get a conversation started that wasn’t about him at all, but about that category. Sean was the one that made it personal and attributed some ulterior motive to Hunter’s proclamation.

          • Mike Julius

            Maybe, MAYBE, he didn’t set out to make it about himself, but the fact remains that the media has focused on him a lot. Another thing about 4the post is the predictions in it will prove prescient, which would have not necessarily been the case if HH had teamed up with the people in that category before or even after.

            It’s not too late. I’ll leave it at that.

    • Devin

      I agree with you 100%. That’s all

  • wdeee

    Nothing to see here. Love Sean but he’s really reaching for the stars here.

  • I don’t understand what’s going on. Hugh refused to participate in a racist practice and that’s a… bad thing? Why?

    White people have an obligation to use their white privilege to the advantage of those who do not benefit from privilege.

    I’m usually a huge fan of Sean but his anger seems extremely misguided and desperate. Would someone enlighten me?

  • nick

    Rather than slagging someone off in public then saying “I don’t know, maybe I’m wrong” I personally would have checked with the person in question first, but that’s just me.

  • Devin

    Sean is full of it. Just wants to be recognized. He seems like he needs more attention lately. He doesn’t even like people of color. Wtf is he talking about? Hugh Hunter is an equal opportunist. Hugh’s responses were perfect.

  • danny

    Ladies, please!

  • Zachary Sire

    Well, like I said, Hugh Hunter has a proven history of making up completely batshit lies in an attempt to bring attention to himself, so I’m inclined to see Sean’s point. But, like I also said, Hugh’s self-importance (self-delusion?) was actually used for the greater good in this particular GayVN instance, so there doesn’t appear to be any harm done this time.

    • Deviancy Behavir

      Thank you for letting me know, never heard about any drama surrounding Hugh Hunter, but I’ll be on the look out.

    • FrenchBug

      You know what they say: even a blind squirrel finds a nut from time to time.
      So even a Twitter drama queen ends up picking a fight worth having from time to time.

  • Xzamilloh

    This is that double edged sword of social justice that I often avoid at great lengths, because it is becoming apparently obvious that there is a social justice hierarchy of intersectionality, and you have to be this or that to be able to speak on this or that. You can’t say in one breath that people should be using their “privilege” to speak on perceived injustices and then demonize them when they do. That’s why so-called allies don’t even bother anymore, and just cheer in the shadows or the sidelines. I am black so I can speak on racism, but I’m a man so I can’t speak on women’s issues, I’m not handicapped so I shouldn’t speak on disabilities, I’m not trans so I shouldn’t speak on trans issues.

    Sean’s “concerns” about Hugh Hunter’s motives kind of reek of mildly pessimistic paranoia, in that he couldn’t just accept that attention was being brought to something, but instead had to inject this unnecessary shot. There is NO reason to question his withdrawal at face value, and I have to agree with Hunter that saying he wouldn’t have won anyway is most definitely a cheap shot. And I’m just gonna be honest: It’s not like Sean Zevran is the ideal person to be highlighting issues about color in porn. Not trying to hear him either

    • Scrapple

      Thank you! I was rolling my eyes so hard reading Sean’s article.

    • Hari Kalyan

      Wait, what’s the tea with Sean?

      • Xzamilloh

        No tea… just observations of his scene partners and things he has said in the past.

    • as3487

      How can a person who is not a victim of racism, sexism, homophobia, transphobia, discrimination—whatever the issue—speak out on those issues?

      While I consider myself a feminist, I also understand that as a man I cannot truly understand sexism or misogyny because it’s something I’ve never experienced—and probably never will. Additionally, I also understand that despite my best intentions or advocacy on behalf of women, as a man I’m implicitly complicit in the culture of misogyny. Just by existing as a man in this world, I benefit from institutional sexism.

      Similarly, caucasians—regardless of their intentions—need to understand they are in a similar position. They benefit from a culture steeped in institutional racism. While I welcome their support and advocacy on my behalf, it always somehow rings hollow since you benefit from the culture no matter what your personal beliefs are.

      • Xzamilloh

        Yeah, you’re on your own with that guilt complex. I’m not sorry for being a man, black, gay, atheist, or anything else, and I’m damn sure not about to cosign on a victim narrative, and your last paragraph is exactly the mindset I was talking about, they’re damned if they do and damned if they don’t, and eventually, they — and that’s any group — are just going to stop trying.

        • as3487

          You have no reason to be sorry for being male, black, gay, atheist or anything else. No one should have reason to be sorry for who they are. That wasn’t my point.

          I’m reminded of the episode of South Park where Stan keeps telling Token that “he gets it.” He understands Token’s plight as a person of color. Finally, he realizes that what he gets is that he doesn’t get it—and never will.

          • Xzamilloh

            Yeah but what I hate is that this language that is supposedly about starting conversations usually ends up shutting them down. “You don’t understand and you never will” isn’t open for interpretation or inviting any kind of societal progression… it’s dismissive and just closes the door.

          • as3487

            I think there’s another way to look at it. Instead of seeing that as an end to the conversation, I actually see it as a beginning. For example, take the “women should be believed” movement we’re seeing right now. The implication is that they weren’t heard or believed before.

            If someone says you don’t get it, fine. Admit it. You’re right, I don’t get it because it’s outside of my set of experiences. Now, let me listen and learn and believe you when you say something is racist, homophobic, misogynistic, whatever. It’s like man or straightsplaining. Just let us speak for ourselves and you be open and receptive to our calls for change and reform.

          • Xzamilloh

            I find a lot wrong with what you’re saying, but I’m gonna leave it alone and just end it here.

          • as3487

            Still. Was good talking to you. I enjoyed the exchange. 😉

      • Scrapple

        You don’t have to be a victim of a specific injustice to acknowledge the injustice. I have family members who have been sexually assaulted. Am I going to keep quiet on the subject because I’ve never personally been sexually assaulted? Fuck no.

        • as3487

          Of course not. But, you certainly wouldn’t claim to understand how they feel since you can’t. You’d take a supporting role in their quest for justice. After all, it’s their fight.

          • Scrapple

            Nope. Sometimes you have to go beyond a supporting role to speak up for people who can’t or won’t speak on their own.

          • as3487

            But then you render the people you want to support as helpless or in need of a savior. You can certainly speak up, but in terms of racial inequities are people of color silent? Are we unable to or refuse to speak up? Of course not. Been doing it forever. Yet, time and again when we voice our concerns they fall on deaf ears or are met with resistance. Yet, when white people speak up about racism they’re often met with swift applause.

            Say for instance a coworker offended you and you told them so. But their response was either silence or a rebuttal. Then another mutual coworker steps in to make the same argument you just made. The offending coworker then says something to the effect of, “Oh that’s a good point. Never thought of it that way.” Even though they came to around, wouldn’t it still unnerve you that you weren’t heard and believed? Why is it that someone outside of the situation, saying the same thing you did, was the one who was heard?

          • Scrapple

            Again, there are situations where people are not in a position to speak on their own. That’s why police don’t need a spouse’s permission to file a domestic violence charge when they see evidence of it. That’s why doctor’s don’t need to wait around for children to come forward when there is evidence of neglect or abuse. Prosecutors don’t need a victim’s cooperation to pursue a case. And so on. Just because someone speaks for someone else it doesn’t always mean they have a savior complex, or they are only doing it for the recognition. When someone does something from the heart, you can tell.

            And the idea that non minorities have to contact the nearest Minority Caucus to broach the subject of speaking out on racial issues is silly. Do minorities contact the Caucasian Caucus every time they address issues within the White community? No, they don’t. You have White professors in colleges teaching Africana Studies. You have the Wayans Brothers creating a movie like White Chicks. People go outside their lanes all the time, and there’s nothing inherently wrong with that.

          • as3487

            I hear ya.

          • Devin Davidson

            Your thinking is what bullies hope happens. That they bully a person to the point of submission or their victim submits and takes the abuse/dominance in silence and nobody who sees whats happening does nothing to help end it. The right thing to do is speak up and defend those being bullied. I disagree that we can’t understand what a victim or any kind of abuse or injustice is going through. I can empathize and realize the pain, humiliation, feeling of hopelessness they are going through. Enough to know it isn’t acceptable nor should anyone have to go through it without others standing up to stop the wrong and promote the right.

          • n24rc

            You do know that, most survivors of abuse and rape don’t often come forward for fear of retribution or embarassment of a smear campaign to discredit them. Just saying, a person outside of the situation to speak on their behalf can offer an outlet and a source of protection….k?

          • Devin Davidson

            Or, in the case of Weinstein, one person not staying silent and speaking up ended as encouragement to others to do the same. When he started to say that he didn’t do anything to the victim and the half a dozen other victims come forward, it makes denying it almost impossible.

      • If your mindset was shared by all, progress could never be made.

        It is the responsibility of those who have privilege to use that privilege to elevate those who don’t have it. This “stick to your own kind” mentality is dangerous and misguided.

        • as3487

          That’s not what I’m saying. At no point did I advocate for tribalism.

          My point—especially as it pertains to the article—is that those effected by the injustice are the best advocates for change and deserve to be heard and believed. More specifically, I think Sean’s point is that racial inequities within the industry have been raised by performers of color for a long, long time. Why is it that the face of this particular protest is a person who’s not effected by it at all? Why did it take a white performer calling out racism for it to be taken seriously?

          • With respect, whether it was your intent or not to advocate for tribalism, it’s difficult to find anything but in your comments. I’m making every attempt I can to really listen to what you have to say, and that includes re-reading your comments multiple times. My conclusion seems to be echoed by the other people here, including many who happen to be persons of color.

            This is not a contest to find the most perfect victim. The point is we all have an obligation to fight prejudice, especially those of us who benefit from privilege. You don’t have to be a woman to think misogyny is wrong, you don’t have to be a victim of sexual assault to think sexual assault is wrong, and you don’t have to be a racial minority to think racism is wrong.

            Don’t just wait for the ideal victim to come along and speak out for you; speak out yourself. And raise people up with you.

          • as3487

            I’m not saying those not effected by a particular form of injustice or discrimination should remain silent. As I said to Scrapple when he used the sexual assault example, ally support is necessary and much appreciated, but it shouldn’t become the face of protest. After all, it’s not their fight.

            In this particular instance, I’m glad that Hugh chose not to participate in the awards ceremony. But why is it that when he takes that stand it’s lauded, yet when performers of color complain about the same issues or take similar stands it often goes ignored.

          • I’d venture the main reason some of the attention was on Hunter was because he was an actual nominee and withdrew his own nominations while stating his reasons why, but the unfortunate part of all of this is what got the real attention wasn’t the worthy cause, but instead it was the messiness and negativity Mr. Zevran decided to create out of all of this.

            Rather than being so focused on who gets the spotlight for the cause, why not just make the spotlight the cause itself? Until Mr. Zevran stepped in, it was.

          • as3487

            Well, friend, we’re in agreement on that. While I understand Sean’s point, I think he went about it all wrong. He should have never called out Hugh. Turned the whole thing into a cat fight.

          • Scrapple

            As I said to Scrapple when he used the sexual assault example, ally support is necessary and much appreciated, but it shouldn’t become the face of protest. After all, it’s not their fight.

            When someone becomes your ally, and they’re fighting alongside you, it becomes their fight too. That’s what ally means.

            And who was lauding Hugh in the first place? Nobody was erecting statues in his name or throwing ticker tape parades. Nobody was trying to put him on the cover of Gay Times magazine. It’s not that deep.

          • as3487

            “Hugh Hunter is being praised right now by gay media and porn blogs as some kind of gay porn social justice icon while actors of color who have been talking about this for years continue to be ignored and forgotten, actors that came before my time, even.”

            It was in Sean’s piece. That’s where I got it from.

          • Scrapple

            Yeah, not every thing Sean says is factual. Hugh sure as heck wasn’t being painted as a savior on this site.

          • as3487

            lol. But that’s probably because he’s also a bit nutty.

          • dqh257

            For the same reason that it took white women coming forward with their stories of being taken advantage of sexually or raped when the #MeToo movement was started by black women. People of color are dismissed and not taken seriously, so it takes White people to speak/communicate to other White people. I think that’s pretty clear and obvious.

          • as3487

            Yes, but why does that have to be?

          • as3487

            Yes, but why does that have to be?

          • Jer

            Except that’s not what happened here, or is happening in general across the nation. If ANYONE says racism is bad, that is a GOOD thing. Attacking your allies is, at the very best, insanely fucking stupid and counterproductive to progress. Eventually they’re going to have nobody left to speak up for them because they’ve silenced and turned off everyone, and they’ll be worse off than before. If they get the exact message wrong or completely twist it, definitely gently correct it, but don’t shoot them in the head for trying to help you up off the ground.

            This is exactly like Parker Molloy and the whole “shemail” thing from Drag Race a few years ago. It was fucking stupid then, and it’s fucking stupid now.

      • Orlando Chan

        I am not Jewish but I know that what the Nazi’s did was wrong.

      • Jer

        It’s quite easy, actually. I’ve never been the victim of a meteorite impact, and I’m pretty sure I never want to be. I don’t have to ask other meteorite impact victims if it sucks to be hit by a giant space rock; I can generally infer that it does, indeed, suck.

        I agree with Xzamilloh that minorities are going waaaaaaay too far with their social policing. You can’t expect people to listen to you or even care about your plight if you silence them and restrict them from having an opinion. They’re essentially using their “power” in liberal circles of being given a voice to silence the voices of others, and that’s not ok. They keep claiming “oh there’s room for everyone at the table”….but then silence others that aren’t like them. To me, that just shows that it doesn’t matter the color, sexuality, or whatever other socially defined characteristic you want to choose the person is: people want power to subjugate others, not make themselves equal. I will always be for equality of everyone regardless of their race, gender, sex, color, creed, whatever….but I sincerely question the motives of many of them who just want a chance to silence others.

      • Devin Davidson

        Really? So white people can not understand nor empathize when racism is involved? Total BS and you attempting to make your opinion as factual, which it is far from being. If what you indicate was true then there would be not point to try to make people understand what constitutes racist behaviors and attitudes in order to further change in our society. The truth is by learning what is racist values and attitudes and advocate for change to correct a narrow view of races and biases towards people based on race or heritage is the path to ending racism.

    • onyx081

      “That’s why so-called allies don’t even bother anymore, and just cheer in the shadows or the sidelines.”

      If these so-called allies are true allies nothing would be able to discourage them from speaking out on injustice. If all it takes is some hurt feelings for you to stop speaking out then you were never an ally to begin with. You were ALL-Lies seeking attention for doing the bare minimum

      I think the frustration for PoC is that they have been saying the same thing since forever and being called bitter and angry for it, but when a white person says it people want to bow down and praise and worship the ground they walk on as if they’ve said something that no one have ever said before.

      There’s a difference between speaking out and speaking over. The job of an ally is to amplify the voices of oppressed groups, not to speak for them or over them while they cheer you on in the background. Also, if you claim to be ally and you get defensive whenever a PoC has questions or criticisms then you’re not a genuine ally. Given the history of privileged groups, those of the oppressed have the right to question your motives.

      The first rule of being an ally is to shut up and listen. I can’t emphasize enough the importance of
      listening to the people actually living X experience. There is nothing more obnoxious than someone (however well intentioned) coming into the spaces of a marginalized group and insisting that they absolutely have the solution even though they’ve never had X experience. You can certainly make suggestions, but don’t be surprised if those ideas aren’t well received because because it’s not about you

      You shouldn’t expect a pass into safe spaces because you call yourself an ally. You’re not entitled to access as a result of not being an asshole. Sometimes it just isn’t going to be about you or what you think should happen. Your privilege didn’t fall away when you became an ally, and there are intra-community conversations that need to take place away from the gaze of the privileged.

      I will never praise any white person for saying shit that black and brown have been demonized, assaulted and even murdered for and any so-called “ally” would understand that

      • Xzamilloh

        Then enjoy nothing changing, because instead of people trying to see things from your perspective, they are going to come into the conversation defensive, afraid of challenging any bad information, and treating us like mentally handicapped children incapable of any autonomy. I will praise anyone bringing attention to issues, because regardless of their personal intent (which can be addressily secondarily), the issues has been brought to the forefront. And good ideas are good ideas, irrespective of who is uttering them.

        I’m not cooning for the white man or anyone else, but using some basic empathy and applying a moral standard that should be universal and shouldn’t change just because the person’s race change. If I was trying to see change come about, I would not want my message diminished just because I’m black, so why the hell would I turn around and do the same thing to someone of another race? That’s the thing with morality… you apply the same standards even when it’s not easy for you

      • Jer

        I have personally seen other white people be told they need to “shut the fuck up and let black voices be heard” when they tried to voice simple assent after a black person had just finished speaking. I see it happen to cis allies of trans people all the time. I’ve seen gay people do it to straight people. Building bridges will ALWAYS be more fruitful than burning them, and sorry, but if you silence someone and treat them as lesser than you, they aren’t going to want to be around you because shock and awe: people like to be treated like people, which you’d think all these social justice warriors would understand because it is exactly what they’re fighting for.

  • Zealot

    I usually roll my eyes when someone says something ridiculously outrageous, then later claims, “I was just trying to start a dialog about ___________”. It’s strange but if something deserves a serious conversation, it deserves a serious conversation starter, like, “Why don’t a bunch of us in the industry get together and host a forum about racism in hiring, payment practices and the like…and while we’re at it maybe we can help set some better standards and examples about how we talk about each other…even in hook-up apps!” It’s a bit like the sexual assault dam breaking. Maybe Hugh is the proverbial little Dutch boy who took his finger out of the dyke and it started a trickle (I don’t think I’d exactly call it a “flood” just yet). So, in this I’d give him the benefit of the doubt that his pulling out of the GayVNs was more selfless than he’s being given credit for. And if it starts a serious discussion about race and porn, then I’d venture to say, it’s worth it. But from what I’ve seen so far, it appears that folks in the industry are more invested in calling him out, or examining his motives rather than saying, “OK. He fired a volley. Let’s follow it up with some real discussion and action”! Because I guarantee…if 75% of the nominees would have pulled out with him, we’d see that proverbial dam burst and some real discussions about race in the porn industry start happening. So do we call out Hugh for his motives in pulling out, or for all those who didn’t?

    • Xzamilloh

      Exactly what I just replied to Frenchbug… now instead of talking about what Hugh Hunter was saying, it’s about why he said it and if his motives were self-serving.

    • Hari Kalyan

      EXACTLY. Sean says “The best course of action would have been for all of us to sit down together and ask “How can we make this better?”. Yet Sean doesn’t take his own advice. If Sean were smart, instead of penning that overlong op-ed to take jabs at Hugh, he could have reached out to him to understand his side (exactly what Sean did to the GayVN committee) or at least try to call Hugh’s bluff: Challenge him to turn his words into action, boycott studios that hire known bigots/racists. Instead, Sean only brings more drama and cattiness to the wrong part of the conversation and diverting from the issue. Case in point: this article being posted here.

  • OverKill

    Oh Sean:
    Close but no. I see the point Sean is making but he really reached on this one. Sean should have left this alone and privately messaged Hugh to get a better understanding of why Hugh withdrew his name.

  • HoratioCaine

    i questions sean zevran’s motivation for questioning someone else’s motivation. methinks he needs down and stfu after offering a heartfelt apology.

  • Scrapple

    First they came for Hugh’s calves, now they’re coming for his motivations. At least let the man have his dignity.

    Now, messy though Hugh may be, what we’re not going to do is pretend Sean is not also messy. Racially messy. We all know how he gets down, and he and Micah Brandt aren’t that far removed. How are you, as a biracial man pulling the “But he’s White” card repeatedly? You’re telling someone to stay in their lane? Bitch, what lane are you in? What lane were you in when you agreed to play a “Dark Angel” in Earthbound: Heaven to Hell 2? Where was your concern for the plight of models of color in gay porn when you starred in a movie that had every single model of color playing an evil character or a demon? What conversations were you having regarding Hot House darkening you up for your scene with Micah in “Bathhouse Ballers?” What bts talks and emails were being taken when HH lightened you up to play a doctor in “Private Practice?” Did you address the problem of starring in a movie titled “Dark Matter” with another model of mixed heritage? Being in the biz for a “hot minute” how many times have you removed your name from nomination consideration? Did you do any of these things?

    Even if Sean is presenting facts and questions that need to be raised, his own motivations deserve massive side-eye. He can have several seats.

    • Xzamilloh
    • Deviancy Behavir
      • Scrapple

        Sean Zevran is hot, but I’m not about to be blinded to the fact he likes to stunt. He’s over here protecting and profiting from an administration which systemically disregards and devalues minorities. But then he wants to get around those same minorities and pretend he’s down for the struggle, while also telling outsiders the appropriate way to join the conversation. He’s the Omarosa of gay porn. Don’t present yourself as Sister Souljah when you’re really Aunt Jemima.

        • Hereweare

          “the Omarosa of gay porn”
          That’s it. The nail’s been hit square on its head.
          I’m done reading the rest of this nonsense.

    • AsherStClaire

      Ok, let’s clear a couple things up.

      1) Your examples are a bit of stretch. What exactly is the issue with him playing a “Dark Angel” when there are three other actors who share that title in the film? And as far as I’m aware, none of those roles within the film utilized racist imagery. In Bathouse Baller’s he doesn’t appear any darker than he normally does, even his twitter picture has him appearing with the same skin tone. In Private Practice the lighting is radically different and naturally washes out the skin, this goes for everyone. And are you really harping on the name of Dark Matter? Are you accusing it of being a racially fetishistic film or are you just stretching your claims in order to weaken his stance? You utulizing a lot of strawman tactics that sound good when shouting them out of a loudspeaker but don’t really hold up when you actually do some basic research into your claims.

      2) He still has more of a claim to be at the forefront of the conversation than Hughes does due to his visibility as a model of color. He has to live with the affects of racism that Hughes will never have to deal with. Regardless of when he chooses to do it, it’s still a conversation that’s inherently relevant to him. And not everyone’s approach to understanding internationality is going to be smooth one.

      3) And yes, he does in fact have several points that need to be addressed and I’m still awaiting some actual issues that should stand of the way of his points being legitimate because you haven’t presented any.

      • Scrapple

        Yes, lets clear some things up since you want to ignore the obvious.

        1. I shouldn’t have to explain the issue of having ALL of your models of color playing demons. Not one of them was worthy of playing an angel? That’s only for the White models? Come on. Depicting non-White models as evil and demonic plays into longstanding imagery or White = Pure and Black = Soiled. As for Bathhouse Ballers, if you choose to believe Sean and Micah are the same complexion, that’s on you. Also, let us also ignore the fact that two men who share Black ethnicity are in a movie with “Ballers” as the title. As for Private Practice, the lighting was intentional because Sean is playing a Doctor. The lighter the better. With respect to Dark Matter, I believe I listed more issues than the name itself. You have the name. You have the scene featuring two models who are mixed. You have the first line of the writeup referring to them as “animalistic.” If you see nothing wrong with this combination, you’re part of the problem. And Lets not forget this is the same studio who put Noah Donovan in full body black makeup (even his fingernails if I recall) to play a sex demon. Or how about the movie set in New Orleans that looks whiter the Real Housewives of Beverly Hills? Falcon has a long history of being clueless when it comes to racial awareness. Perhaps you should take your own advice and research that.

        2. Please. When you sit back and play the role of House Negro and reap all the benefits that come with that title, you don’t then get to come outside and start acting like you’re a Field Negro because a White person dared say something against slavery. That’s not how that works. Sean has no issues playing into whatever racial stereotypes are thrown his way (in front of the camera and in his personal life) so he is, in fact, part of the problem. And who are you, Sean or anybody else to say that this conversation isn’t relevant to Hugh’s life? Do you know the makeup of his family? Do you know if he has minorities in his family? I’m sure you don’t. It’s pretty audacious to tell someone what conversations they can and can’t be a part of when you know nothing about where they’re coming from. And as I said, if this conversation was so important to Sean, why is this only coming out now? Please, by all means, show me some receipts where Sean has taken a stand over the plight of models of color. Please show me how many awards he has turned down. Please show me how he, as a Falcon Exclusive, worked behind the scenes to help break down that gay color wall.

        3. You can wait until Kingdom Come Part 2 as far as I’m concerned. You want to sit here and make excuses for one problematic person of color because another problematic person of non-color addressed an issue you feel he had no business talking about. Whatever. Instead of dealing with the conversation at hand (which is what pretty much all the people on this site did when the topic was first raised) you want to focus on Hugh’s whiteness. You want to not focus on Falcon’s gross racial antics. You want to ignore Sean’s years of bloviating and non-action. That’s all well and good. But please don’t sit there and act like the things I addressed in my original post aren’t things that need to be taken into consideration when evaluating Sean’s response. I realize some people throw away their critical thinking skills when a hot piece of ass is on the table, but you don’t need to be that guy.

        • Xzamilloh

          You’re a better one than me. I just replied “okay” and called it a day with that one.

          • Scrapple

            And I only did that because he tried to get cute with that tone. People can try it if they want to, but it never ends well for them.

        • Devin

          Oh damn. That was some Remy Ma (Shether) type shit. You’re Remy and AsherStClaire is Nicki

    • c_find

      For the record his husbands calves, Hugs has pretty nice ones he’s more thicker than Dolf.( just some useless info) Everything you said is on point.

      • Scrapple

        Yeah, I had them confused. Thanks for pointing that out.

  • n24rc

    So they are fighting over the issues they both agree upon? Only gays. Lol.

    Take a chill pill boys.

  • Marcus Collack

    Sean is giving me Lex Luthor circa Season 5 of Smallville, where it became abundantly clear that he was hurting more than helping in some instances. It’s the classic Castiel Dichotomy where you think you’re helping:

    but along the way some things happen and it becomes a little murky:

  • CamCam

    This is a very tough one because no one is wrong. I’m glad that Hugh said something and that people listened but on the other hand, stars like Diesel Washington has been saying this stuff for quite some time and no one noticed it or gave it much thought until Hugh Hunter said something and that’s kinda disturbing. Why must it take the voice of a white person to listen to matters involving men of color? We need allies for sure but i think Sean made a very valid point. Even with that said, what’s done is done and I’m glad that what Hugh has done is making everyone talk and think. The hope is that change can finally happen and hopefully, the men of color on gay porn will take the ball and run with it so that we can have a true “rainbow” of men in gay porn the way that life is already.

  • AsherStClaire

    Ok, I didn’t realize so many people were having so much trouble understanding what makes an actual ally. Here’s the thing, you don’t get to call yourself an ally, I mean sure, you can call yourself one but you won’t be taken seriously if your actions don’t line up accordingly.

    Just because you can speak up, doesn’t mean you always have to or that your voice is needed at every given opportunity. That goes double for times when a person with more relevant experience on the topic at hand is present. When we say that White People need to use their privilege, we mean utilize it in a way that highlights the perspectives of People of Color.

    Now because of the fact that Hughes didn’t fully understand the nature of the categories he was protesting, the models that were up for nomination are almost surely going to lose their shot at recognition. In his efforts to speak out on behalf on People of Color, he cost his peers an opportunity to be present and acknowledged among their peers. Please remember that these categories were created because quite frankly, gay people are racist as fuck and if given the opportunity, regularly ignore or further marginalize people of color.

    And if Hughes was really all about being an ally, he would’ve taken Zevran’s words to heart and realize that he kinda fucked things up for the people he was supposedly trying to stick up for. And any basic level research, or even a basic level conversation with a Person of Color could’ve explained to him the purpose of those categories in the first place.

    • Jer

      No, he actually didn’t cost them a chance to speak out. A mature reply could have been “Hugh, thank you for bringing attention to this issue” then going on to write an article about his experience as a black porn actor. And you can either want white people to use their privilege to raise consciousness however they think they can to combat racism, or you can have them STFU and not help because the last time I checked, I didn’t have a PoC speed-dial phone to fact check everything before I denounce some aspect of our racist culture. And quite frankly, it’s my First Amendment right and right as a human being to say whatever I want. If I am speaking out about something racist, clearly I do not care if a black person chimes in and starts giving their take- in fact I would very much appreciate it to highlight the issue from someone that actually experiences it and I will gladly let them have the floor. Don’t assume that we’re shutting you off and you’re not free to speak just because we clamored loudly first- there are people like me doing it because we want to bring the attention to YOU and we’re naturally loud extroverts that give exactly zero fucks what other people think of them.

      • AsherStClaire

        I didn’t say he cost them a chance to speak out, I said he denied them an opportunity to be recognized and receive accolades that would’ve been very unlikely to be received otherwise. What people keep missing in this is that these categories were specifically created because Model of Color would regularly be ignored and cast aside when these nominations would be announced because they were determined by the customer base. Meaning that the consumer base would regularly and overwhelmingly acknowledge White Performers above everyone else.

        • Jer

          They were essentially being fetishized, not receiving accolades. As a white person, I see through the whole charade of that category because I have seen white people do that bullshit for YEARS. If anything, it was the categorical equivalent of a pity fuck and we as allies should join with black gay men and demand inclusion in regular categories, and if it doesn’t start occurring, boycott them and call out those who try to defend that segregation.

    • Jer

      I also take issue when people say things like “gay people are racist as fuck” or make generalizations and think it’s ok because they’re oppressed. It’s actually not, it’s hypocritical. You can’t in the same breath say that the statement “black men are rapists” is offensive, then utter “gay people are racist as fuck” and think it’s ok. The fact of the matter is that both of those statements are true, but the statements: “black men aren’t rapists” is true as is “gay people aren’t racist” as the overwhelming vast majority of black men will never rape someone and there are many, many gay men like myself that are not racist and who have read people for filth for putting shit like “whites only” in their Grindr profiles….in person, at the bar, in front of everyone because that racist ass ho needed her ass called out on the floor.

      I, personally, think that category “Best Ethnic Scene” is racist and should be removed, and I say that as a white person. Because as a white person I know that is white people fetishizing people of color, NOT celebrating them. It was not this big step to have this category- it was just being more outwardly racist is a socially approved way. There are so many black, Asian, Latino, Middle Eastern etc. gay porn actors that are amazing and they should NOT be relegated to one fetish category and treated like the same category as leather or some other thing that people focus on to get their rocks off. They are people just like their white counterparts and the categories need to be integrated. And if integration doesn’t happen? We overthrow the racist fucks currently in charge and do it ourselves.

      • AsherStClaire

        This is such a mish-mash of social justice tropes and misunderstandings that I don’t know where to start. And I have a feeling that if I try to start actually deconstructing all the faulty crap you just said that you’d just end up getting defensive.

        So I’m just gonna run though the gamut of what I can tackle.

        1) “Gay People are racist as fuck” speaks to the reality of my lived experiences and the experienced of plenty of other people of color within the gay community. So much so that it has resulted in many People of Color having to create their own communities and events as a means of shelter from the racism in the LGBT Community (there is a reason why there are usually separate Black Gay Pride events all over the country). If you don’t find that the statement “Gay People are racist as fuck” doesn’t apply to you, fine move on, but that doesn’t change the fact that the phrase is still true for a large section of the community.

        2) Sean Zevran specifically stated that he spoke to the director of the GayVN Awards that the category was specifically created because People of Color were being routinely ignored by the customers base and this was created as “solution”. And with that “solution” gone (as faulty as that solution was) the entire situation is likely to go back to where it was before with Models of Color being routinely ignored again like they were in the past due to a racist customer base who only place value on the White Standard of Beauty. And the models who were up for that award are not more than likely going to lose their opportunity to have their moment in the spotlight.

        But rather than acknowledge that Hughes may have been a bit hasty, ya’ll want to prance around and stunt like you actually know what’s best for People of Color, despite the fact that you’ve been ignoring us and our grievances for decades but all of a sudden decide to care…all the while still proceeding to ignore us. There is such a thing as a wrong way to help you know.

        • Jer

          I’m not the one being defensive, henny.

          In terms of #1, a woman raped by a black man could also say that’s the reality of her lived experience. It doesn’t make it true that all black men are racist. The reality of my lived experience is that I was raised in a house surrounded by black people, Asians, and Native Americans as my grandmother was the only person in town that would take their children in her daycare so I was one of the only white kids there. When I say “my best friend is black” (which she is) I am met with eyerolls saying OH YOU’RE ONE OF THOSE WHITE PEOPLE, being judged by people that do not even know me, despite the fact that I was called a “n—-r lover” during college and had to constantly defend the fact that I was friends with her and proudly did so and would walk her home from my dorm room every night because she was scared of being assaulted. I am a gay man, and when you say “gay men are racist” you are lumping me in with them and silencing/dehumanizing me. If I say “black people are disgusting and filthy and vile and rapists but oh not you Asher, it doesn’t apply to you! You’re not like that!” are you likely to ignore it? I would fucking hope not because that would be an offensive and untrue thing to say. Wanna play word politics? Then say “I hate the racism that runs rampant in the gay community” rather than dehumanizing individuals. You can’t have your cake and eat it too and complain about racism while in the same breath uttering prejudicial statements and telling people not to be thin-skinned. It doesn’t make you “woke”, it makes you a fucking hypocritical asshole.

          In regard to number 2, there is another solution. Boycott them. Or as I prefer, violently overthrow them if we don’t get our way. Again, zero fucks given. If they won’t integrate, we fucking.make.them. I’m not going to play word politics and talk about my lived experience and oh let’s give a voice to those that are oppressed. You want to speak? Speak. And while you share your little feelings and sing kumbaya, I will be taking those asshats to task for wrapping thinly veiled racism in the guise of “inclusiveness.” That category was the white equivalent of saying “oh he’s hot for a black guy.” And again, you use words like “you’ve been ignoring us and our grievances for decades.” Uhm no bitch, I haven’t, and you best not complain about others’ lack of precision of words when you don’t practice what you preach.

          I will never, ever say that I know what’s best for people of color, but I can approximate a good facsimile and to me it looks like them being treated like I expect to be treated: someone who is valued as a person, and not a fetish.

  • Diesel Washington
    • AsherStClaire

      I like how they think that we believe that they actually care now. No, they want their moment to look like good progressives who care but still put “no black no femmes, no rice or spice” in their grindr profiles while we aint looking.

  • WyattTF

    White person: *says and does nothing to combat racism*

    SJWs: “Hey you racist asshole silence is violence. Fuck your privileged ass perpetuating systemic oppression.”

    White person: : *takes decisive action and loudly denounces racism*

    SJWs: “Oh fuck this white savior motherfucker dominating the conversation. This is pathetic attention seeking!”

    Hmm. It’s almost as if White people can’t win and will be berated no matter what.

  • I love Sean, but I ain’t for this.

  • Martin

    I’m not the fondest of Hugh Hunter on a personal level but don’t beat around the bush Zach lmao, on one of the forms you leaked while covering the Michael Lucas/Hugh Hunter fiasco it had Hugh Hunter’s real name on it along with his address. I along with anyone else who read it saw the words with our very own eyes. Let’s just keep it 100% honest

  • Maximus
  • n24rc

    Sean is somewhat of an egomaniac. IF it’s not about him, then he goes into paranoia about a person’s intentions.

    Sean wasn’t even in the discussion yet felt the need to talk about it as if he is an expert on it. How many other black men are going to agree with his assessments of the points made by Hugh? You’d be intellectually dishonest to suggest that they’d all agree with Sean. I think liberalism is dying a slow death because of these views that only groups of people should discuss such matters pertain to them and that allies cannot. IN ORDER TO CREATE CHANGE YOU NEED SUPPORT FROM ALL SEGMENTS OF THE COMMUNITY.

    Sean has a high estimation of himself, which can be healthy in some areas, but a detriment in others. He’s been known to be a total cunt to people behind their backs…and to their faces in the industry. So it’s not like a shock he’s being cunty now.

    I mean, if you look at Sean’s twitter feed it’s just one comment after another about how guys who talk to him only want to fuck him, and likewise if he turns them down, he complains of being slut-shamed. It’s all sanctimonious. He never factors himself in those interactions, and if defensiveness was a factor before the interaction.

    I’m going to give a pass on that comment, but it only implies to me that Sean wants to wear two-hats at once being the academic intellectual, and the porn princess that everyone wants to get into their pants. Do you want to be taken seriously or desired? It’s obvious the porn became your first choice, after being denied admission to any of the grad programs you looked into.