A Horrific Sampling Of Insane Internet Comments About Michael Sam

Posted May 10, 2014 by with 42 comments

michaelsamOn Saturday afternoon, All-American defensive end Michael Sam was drafted by the St. Louis Rams, making him the first openly gay player in NFL history. Video of Sam getting the news:

While most of the reactions to this news from people on the internet was overwhelming positive, some of it was predictably awful. And while no one in their right mind would ever read internet comments about a story as “polarizing” as this, sometimes it’s so insane, you just have to look? Nowhere was the hate more insane than on the horrific and ratchet (as the kids say) “urban” “news” “website” World Star Hip Hop. They posted the video, and here’s a sampling of what followed. (As of post time, there were well over 5000 comments.)

A lot of comments were about how gays = the end of civilization, which is kind of a compliment if you think about it? (If only we had that much power.)

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White Vampires from The Big Bang Theory are brainwashing black ppl, FYI:

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Someone with a very faggoty name gets right to the point:

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So many comments were about poop.

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But most were fantasy-fueled rants about the little white boy getting fucked by the big black dick. Take it away, Chicken Nuggets!

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There were over 1,000 comments about how Michael Sam got signed to a team called the “Rams.” Get it?

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Some ppl just wanted to eat ass!

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Other ppl just wanted to suck some d 😉

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When all else fails, resort to violence:

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Some comments were actually sort of funny, in a 12-year-old kind of way.

dramafunnymeatGetting back to the more serious responses, it was only a matter of time before somebody brought a parrot into it.

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But if there’s one takeaway from the entire debate, it’s to be wary of locker room booners.

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[WorldStarHipHop]

  • DeanD

    I posted this historical moment on a website and the first response referred to secure shower-rooms and boycotting future games. Everyday is like Sunday…

  • txsaneman

    Sadly, not surprising. But the world has always had idiots, why should our time be any different? The only thing we can hope for is the one thing we’re capable of…getting better each time.

  • robirob

    See them as the rantings of sore losers and they do not hurt / offend that much.

    Haters hate.

  • GN

    I like the “White vampires are brainwashing Black people into being gay” remark. That silly cunt deserves some sort of prize.

  • Bull

    Seems like homophobes think more about ass fucking than us gay dudes!

  • Persa Verance

    Since when is WorldStarHipHop an accurate representation of opinions about anything that requires critical thinking and working brain cells? This is the same website that regularly posts videos of teenaged girls beating each other up and presents it as entertainment. It’s like you went out of your way to say “Hey, look at those homophobic Black folks over there.” while ignoring the overwhelming support Michael Sam is getting from everyone.

    WorldStarHipHop is a a niche website targeted toward a specific minority group of young people and has nothing to do with professional football, real news or LGBT rights in anyway.

    I’m not clear why you picked that website and those comments to highlight. You could go on almost any mainstream sports website gearted toward straight men and find as many if not more horrible things said. Hell, you could just go on Twitter and find the same kind of vitriolic homophobia posted by people representing the dominant culture in the U.S. (White men)

    WorldStarHipHop is not the arbitor of what Black Americans think about ANYTHING, let alone Michael Sam. And since he isn’t rapper or musician or part of “Hip Hop Culture”, I don’t see the connection here.

    I’m just not feeling this post Zach.

    • James Withers

      Agree and disagree. Bigotry is bigotry, no matter who espouses it. Don’t think Zach was doing a “look at these fucked up black homophobes.” Just pointing out that the cray was out there. However, he can speak for himself.

    • A.C.

      I agree with the overwhelming majority of what you wrote (sentiment included), with one exception – Zach’s motive for creating this post. If I had to hazard a guess, I believe that Zach is highlighting the fact that people of color, who so profoundly understand the perniciousness of bigotry should be the least likely to level such bigotry at another historically disparaged group. While it is true that there were whites who made equally appalling statements in that comment section as well, the concern is still none the less valid. As Mr. Withers stated, Zach can speak for himself, but that is my perspective.

      • pangelboy

        >I believe that Zach is highlighting the fact that people of color, who
        so profoundly understand the perniciousness of bigotry should be the
        least likely to level such bigotry at another historically disparaged
        group.

        That is such bullshit, though.

        A lot of people of color are empathetic to the treatment of LGBT people in America because of their shared history with this country’s racist past and present, but to hold all people of color to a higher standard than other races and make judgement values when they don’t meet that standard is ridiculous and naive.

        Assholes come in all shades.

        • A.C.

          All of what you said is certainly true, but I fail to see the point of disagreement. My statement had nothing to do with holding people of color to a higher standard, it simply had to do with understanding that we above all other peoples in this country should be steadfast adherents to the standard. In other words, we should do better because we know and continue to demand better. Making the statement that “a… come in all shades” does not in any way diminish the fact that it is particularly odious when the offenders are members of a group that are in part defined by their struggle for social equality. I too questioned why Zach chose WSHH instead of ESPN.com or any number of other sites that actually cover sports and or queer community issues, but the fact that bigotry is a multiracial exercise does not mean that we cannot discuss this specific instance of it. I always fear racial classification in instances like these, and I am even more weary and cynical of it when it concerns people of color, because it has a way of making it seem as if we are worse some how. I am also extremely sensitive to it because it gives some a license to ignore legitimate claims of racism by replying with moral equivalencies that cite comments like the ones that are the subject of this post. That said, it does not excuse the fact that the behavior is wrong and particularly disheartening when it comes from fellow people of color.

          Further, if we believe that bigotry is wrong, and that the individuals that subscribe to that bigotry are wrong for holding those beliefs, then it strikes me as odd that we cannot make a value judgment – they are ignorant to say the least and hypocritical at the median. I am all to aware and appreciative of the fact that there is a sizable plurality of people of color in this country that are sympathetic to the concerns of the queer community (and I am glad that they do not visit WSHH), but that does not excuse this lot. Again, I just ventured a guess as to why Zach might have selected the comments from this site, I agree with Persa Verance’s statement overall (I wish that we could talk because I rather enjoyed reading her and you on the QMN posts concerning Marc Dylan. I even joined in myself), I am simply providing a plausible answer to the question “why WorldStarHipHop?”.

          • pangelboy

            I understand your point, and you are incredibly well spoken, but I disagree emphatically with the idea that people of color should be expected to be more progressive on issues of Civil Rights, because they fought for similar rights at a certain point.

            In my mind it glosses over the cultural influences on people of color. We fought for our Civil Rights yes, but a large (probably the majority) of Black America is informed by African-American protestant churches, that on the one hand have nurtured a familial system that slavery tried to destroy, but has also instilled a large amount of homophobia in the minds of a lot of black folks.

            There’s also the “thug” culture that seeks to rebel against the emasculation of black men by mainstream society that attacks anything that is seen as “feminine” or not masculine enough.

            Plus, with black men still being imprisoned at incredibly high rates, education constantly being underfunded, and an endemic lack of resources and opportunities, the sudden focus on LGBT rights leads to bitterness and unfortunately certain people take advantage of that to spew hate.

            You’re holding black people to a higher standard when you single out a particular race as hypocrites for not supporting the LGBT movement. Black people are just as likely to not know any gay people, not understand what marriage equality entails, or know any trans* people. If not more so given unique cultural pressures.

            I just thought Zach posted it because it fits his irreverent sense of humor.

          • A.C.

            I agree with every syllable of your analysis concerning the causes and or explanations of heterosexism in the black community – you lay it out succinctly and clearly. We will have to disagree on this issue, and that is fine to me because ultimately, on the question of Zach’s motives for creating this post I was incredibly left of far field. Zach wanted a good laugh and I saw something else. Like the people on WSHH, the jokes on me. Oh, thank you for the kind words, I am humbled. Please know that you are fine writer yourself.

          • La Bambi

            It’s just that your comments and Zach’s post further the myth that Blacks are especially homophobic. The majority of Blacks support gay marriage, and Blacks are more likely than Whites to identify as LGBT. We take a small group of Black individuals as representative of the whole community, while we never place the same expectation on whites.

          • A.C.

            I understand the arguments being made, and to be honest, I was not aware of the statistics that you cited, but your points are well taken. While I stand behind my originally stated position I welcome yours as well. Please understand that I do not believe that black folk own a monopoly on heterosexism, my comments were strictly about the juxtaposition – the demand to be treated respectfully while disregarding the demands of others in a similar situation. And believe me, I never miss an opportunity to check bigotry, no matter the race, but the inherent hypocrisy is what draws my concern.The joke is still on me though considering Zach’s later post about his true intentions for posting – which was to make fun of the posters.

      • James Withers

        “If I had to hazard a guess, I believe that Zach is highlighting the fact
        that people of color, who so profoundly understand the perniciousness
        of bigotry should be the least likely to level such bigotry at another
        historically disparaged group”

        Mmmmmm. This really isn’t related to how people work. Being a victim of bigotry doesn’t make you emphatic. Don’t know why people insist on this theory, when history tells a completely different story.

        • A.C.

          I understand that history may not show in every instance that is the case, but the question is should you expect it to be so – I do. Further, I can point to a number of instances in world history where being the victim of bigotry was the impetus for empathy and eventual social change. For what it is worth, I believe that we are saying the same thing. Black people were not the only people who made these types of comments, they probably were not the majority of people who made them, but it should strike us as at least baffling that a people who demand to be treated with respect because of our history can not muster the decency to do it to others. The minority of individuals in those posts that is.

          • James Withers

            “Black people were not the only people who made these comments, they probably were not the majority of people who made them, but it should strike us as at least baffling that a people who demand to be treated with respect because of our history can not muster the decency to do it to others”

            So it strikes you as baffling that black folk act human? :-) It’s a nice story about bigotry making people emphatic but it’s just that. No problem calling out prejudice, no matter who espouses, but I’m not going to expect something transcendent just because someone has a history oppression. Like the great-aunt noted in All the Pretty Horses being treated like crap doesn’t make you attuned to the hurt of others (rough paraphrase).

    • Owen

      Well said, buddy.

    • pangelboy

      I hope the point of this post wasn’t, “Hey, look at those homophobic Black folks over there,” and had more to do with Zach’s type of humor.

      Fuck WorldStarHipHop with a ten inch pole.

  • nodoubtfan

    Trolling WorldStar for horrible comments? Talk about low-hanging fruit…no pun intended. (Or was it?)

  • Zealot

    I think haters of any race, creed or color are homo to the max and scared as shit about it….people who know who they are are usually ok with anyone who’s different because they understand that’s who they are, and this is who I am and that’s ok. Talking about guns, or eating pussy don’t make you straight. It just means you know the lingo. Most of these guys are probably gnarly losers who no decent woman in their right mind would go near with their pussy without extra heavy duty condoms and a bottle of RID. And a side tip to these gals…don’t be shocked when they pull out a gigantic dildo and ask you to strap it on. Macho “straight” guys just love getting butt plugged. In fact a bunch of these guys might consider signing on with MEN.com. Match made in Heaven.

  • Porn Star

    The twink is the top. Just sayin’

    • NG212

      I hope they’re both vers. That’d be hot.

  • NG212

    I did post this elsewhere, but since there’s a dedicated page on this mess now, I’ll repost my thoughts.

    As a black gay man, I find that comment section so appalling. It’s sad. It’s atrocious. It’s unacceptable. And it’s so diametrically opposed to the values of respect and equality that we enshrine as black Americans.

    I’m struck by the immaturity. People shocked to see two men kiss. People expressing hatred for gay people because they find gay sex repulsive.

    There are dozens of comments dedicated to dehumanizing our community. I’m not surprised that these attitudes exist. I’m not surprised that people are ignorant and obnoxious and mean-spirited on the Internet.

    But I am disappointed. Disappointed that a major constituency within the black community still finds it acceptable to disregard the humanity and rights of another group. I’m breaking a rule right now by speaking ill of black people when white people are around, but these ignorant bastards make us all look bad. Unfortunately, black people are still generalized in American society. Perception sometimes seems like reality. People on the right think we’re lazy welfare queens and people on the left think we’re backwards and unevolved on these sorts of social issues.

    It was a beautiful, historic day. And no amount of trolling know-nothings can spoil that for Michael and his loved ones.

    • James Withers

      Why does your race and sexuality matter in this conversation? And do you really want to use the royal we when talking about what black Americans enshrine?

  • zach

    I published this post because I like making fun of crazy people on the internet. I went to a highly-trafficked website (World Star) where I knew I would find the craziest of the crazies (“low-hanging fruit,” as one of you accurately pointed out). I could have also gone to World Net Daily (a cesspool of right-wing Christianist birthers) but their Michael Sam entry only had 20 comments (http://www.wnd.com/2014/05/st-louis-rams-draft-openly-gay-player/), and none of them were as entertaining as the ones on WSHH.

    If you’re reading into this any further than that, I can’t help you.

    • A.C.

      Well, that shut me up until next time. I should have presumed that your reason for doing so was fairly innocuous.

    • PC1024

      for real, all u can do with people like that is tell them (as zach did) that u want to suck their big fat juicy cocks while u rot in hell for sinning. Tell them u want to use Santorum (frothy mixture of lube and fecal matter) while u shove their big cocks into your funkbox as you and your gay buddies lead the youth of the nation to bath houses like some queer pied piper. Tell them u can’t help but picture their pulsating assholes when you are in the same room and that you want to felch back and forth until you have gotten your required calorie intake for the day. Tell them you can’t wait until all the locker rooms in all the sports leagues are just giant Treasure Island Media movie sets where massive orgies and meth injections replace the pre-game pow wow with the coach. Thats the AMERICA we are pushing for with our ‘agenda’….Oh, and somehow mention Jesus and how he was the ultimate beard.

      *i think i had too much fun writing this*

  • NickDC

    I most enjoyed the gentleman who wrote “Rams just got a huge gay fanbase” because the amount of Rams merchandise (both generic STL Rams and Michael Sam-specific STL Rams stuff) and increase in ticket sales will have a larger impact on Michael Sam making the team than how he performs in training camp.

    Let’s not forget that prior to Michael Sam’s announcement he was considered by draft analysts and scouts to be a possible late round pick, after his announcement Michael Sam had an awful NFL Combine performance which further lowered his stock (remember even prior to coming out he was not a lock to be drafted). The issue for Michael Sam is that he lacks the size to play defensive line in the NFL and lacks the speed to transition to an outside linebacker. Those who cannot grasp what I am saying should think of Tim Tebow– Tebow was the best quarterback at the college level but lacked the size and skills needed for NFL success; Michael Sam was great in college but lacks the gifts to excel at the next level, just like Tebow.

    The true, accurate test of the acceptance and impact of an out, gay professional player will not come from a bench player like Michael Sam or a washed up NBA player like Jason Collins; it will only occur when a popular, All-Star/MVP-level athlete playing at the prime of his career who has a number of lucrative corporate sponsorships decides to share with the public that he is a gay man. While Michael Sam and Jason Collins are positive steps forward, neither is our community’s Jackie Robinson. Google “Branch Rickey and Jackie Robinson” to understand why we in the gay community are still waiting for our Jackie Robinson.

    • A.C.

      Wow, NickDC, your second and third paragraphs mirror almost to a tee the conversation that I had last night with one of my boys. We were glad to see that Sam has realized his dream, but I believe, if my stats are right, there is only one other time that a conference player named Defensive Lineman of the year was not selected in the first two rounds. His late selection is a realization of his limited gifts compared to what is available in the NFL today. In some ways that is comforting because the historic nature of his announcement should not overshadow the fact that on the field, he will be just another player – as it should be.

      It is the distinction worth noting, that I continue to state repeatedly, Jackie Robinson was great for being the first but by the stats he was not a terribly great player. We found that in Willie Mays. Sam and Collins first are great for history, but on paper and in performance neither are compelling. I am waiting to see if the same criticisms raised of Tebow will be raised with Sam.

      • James Withers

        Jackie Robinson not a great player? :-) Well, now I’ve heard everything. What’s next? Hank Aaron wasn’t all that? Bill Russell was a hack? :-)

        • A.C.

          I qualified it by noting that he was not a terribly great player, to boot it was an argument of comparison. Hank Aaron and Bill Russell are great players in their own right, but that was not the point of my post. It was making the distinction between a player who is highly profiled versus a player who is substantively worth the attention. Now, Robinson was great enough that in a vacuum, that distinction need not necessarily be applied to him, but compared to Mays, yes, it is necessary. The distinction becomes even more necessary when discussing Sam and Collins. The desire should not just be for a first, the should desire a first with substance. That was all that I was discussing with NickDC.

      • NickDC

        Jackie Robinson was not a terribly great player?

        While his career was short (he debuted in MLB when he was 28 years old and retired at 37 years old), he certainly had a very accomplished career: 6 Time All-Star (in 10 season played), Rookie of the Year (1947), Batting Title (1949), MVP (1949). played in 6 World Series (winning one), a .311 career batting average, a .409 career on-base percentage, a .474 slugging percentage. Robinson was one of only two players during the span of 1947–56 to accumulate at least 125 steals while registering a slugging percentage over .425 (Minnie Miñoso was the other).

        According to Nate Silver’s Five Thirty Eight:
        * “despite Robinson’s short career, James ranked Robinson as the fourth-best second baseman ever in “New Historical Baseball Abstract.”

        *In sum, Robinson was an all-around sabermetric star. There isn’t an area of the game where the advanced stats don’t consider him very good, if not one of the best ever. The notion that somehow Robinson has lost his luster as we learn more about what makes for winning baseball couldn’t be further from the truth. If anything, sabermetric stats help us appreciate Robinson’s greatness even more.”

        Source: http://fivethirtyeight.com/datalab/advanced-stats-love-jackie-robinson/

        On the other hand, Michael Sam needs to have a spectacular training camp in order to make the St Louis Rams regular season roster. The media’s messaging has the average person blind to the fact that most 7th round draft picks do not make the team’s roster and if Michael Sam fails to earn a roster spot it will only be because of his performance and not who he loves. Yet I can already see that if/when Sam gets cut from the Rams, Gay Inc will declare he was cut solely because Sam is gay.

        • A.C.

          I do not disagree with anything that you have stated, but my argument was one of comparison – Robinson to Mays. Robinson achieved all of what you stated, no doubt, but while Robinson was first, Mays was the better player. We focus on Robinson being the first black player in professional baseball and forget that in the same era Mays was better. When you consider what is historic about firsts – that it says that “we” are capable of playing as good if not better than our established counterparts – then the desire should always be for a player of substance and not one of profile. You want the “first” to prove that claim so that there are no questions
          that the barrier has been rightly challenged and duly discredited. That is all that I was trying to emphasize. Of course, I could choose a better example than Robinson because standing alone his skills and achievements justified his high profile visibility, but when compared to Mays (who was even superior to Babe Ruth – another black ball player) the latter would have been the better flag bearer. Sams is a good football player, but based on performance, thus far, not NFL material. Now if we were talking about Jadeveon Clowney, there would be no comment. As for the last paragraph of your post I could not agree with you more! There is nothing more that I could add to that statement – it perfectly captures the right sentiment.

          • NickDC

            Thanks. Btw, as a San Francisco Giants fan Willie Mays is a living legend as is his godson Barry Lamar Bonds.

            As far as why it was Jackie Robinson and not Willie Mays to be chosen to break the color barrier: The Say Hey Kid was 15 years old when Jackie took his first at bat for the Dodgers– Willie graduated high school in 1950 and was winning the Rookie of the Year Award for the then-NY Giants in 1951.

            Branch Rickey had a Six Point Criteria that guided him in choosing the right player to break the color barrier, these criteria were:
            1.The right man off the field.

            2.The right man on the field.

            3.Positive reaction of black Americans.

            4.Positive reaction of the press and public.

            5.A place for him in the organization (Montreal where race relations would be less of an issue).

            6.Positive reaction of his teammates.

            Those bullet points doing properly explain Rickey’s criteria but Rickey himself explains it in this speech: http://memory.loc.gov/ammem/collections/robinson/branch.html

            Truth be told Jackie Robinson is considered one of the 50 greatest players of all time; not for breaking the color barrier but for his performance on the field.

  • one thing to remember these haters are in the minority and social media can make it seem like they are much larger a group than they are in reality.

    The Miami Dolphins swift punishment of their player who tweeted OMG wrong was good to see maybe it will show other players who are not with the times that they better keep that to themselves and treat their teammates respectfully or they face consequences. This is not high school football where bullying and hazing are common this is professional football and that kind of crap has not place in a professional environment.

  • many communities of color are also deeply religious and they tend to be religious affiliations that are very conservative, fundamentalist and not respectful or gays, or women in some cases. so your going to see more of that anti gay comments on a hiphop site, even the hiphop community itself is still not that welcoming to it’s own hiphop artists who come out. i am sure foxnews.com was not majority pro gay comments even yahoo get’s a lot of haters. they are usually the ones with tons of typos, poor diction, grammer, and that shows the level of education many of them have. they have only been taught to fear others who are different and many react with hate.

  • sxg

    lmao man you people sure read TOO much into Zach’s post. All you can do with a post like this is laugh at how ignorant these people at World-Star HipHop are, and be grateful that they don’t represent the majority of people’s opinions. The responses are so incredibly comical.

  • James Withers

    “The desire should not just be for a first, the should desire a first with substance.”

    Huh? So Collins and Sam should stay in the closet because they are not Hall of Fame material? Straight players can have careers, minus distinction, but lord help us if a gay athlete isn’t the pink Jackie Robinson? :-) Yeah, sorry. Can’t get on board with that. Gay folk should have the right to play with “substance” or just be average career players. That’s equality. But I’ll stop sniping. No need to waste Zach’s bandwidth.

    • A.C.

      No one is calling for any gay player to remain closeted, however, what I was discussing was the fact that as a football player the emphasis should be on his performance and not his profile. It is fine if the latter follows a laudable example of the former as it should, but that remains to be seen. I too will stop the back and forth at this point because you are right, this conversation has run its course and we both have better and new conversations to engage. The back and forth was enjoyable though, and I appreciated it.

  • Zoompietro

    Zach, did any of the closeted trolls over at WSHH hit you up?

    • zach

      no :-((